"Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4"

Discussion:

Mark Millard via freebsd-arm

2021-05-14 20:55:54 UTC

I am aware of the direction that you have taken on this
subject and have been thinking about a response. But the
freebsd-arm list seems to be messed up.

For one, I've not received any messages via email for
recent list activity. freebsd-arm is one of the few
lists that I do have set up to send E-mail. (Many lists
I just read via a web browser.)

For another:

https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm/2021-May/thread.html

now gets "404 Not Found" for me. But:

https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm/2021-May/

gets a different type of thread list.

But that list (and the related author, date, subject
sorts) shows no "Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4"
messages at all.

https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm/2021-May/index.html

also produces that thread sorted list that is missing
things.

One of the links on the page takes me to:

https://lists.freebsd.org/index

which shows an incomplete list of about 17 mailing lists. It also
lists a bunch of "Archived mailing lists" that do not allow for
subscription. The page reports being based on: "generated by
mlmmj-webview" which links to:

https://codeberg.org/bapt/mlmmj-webview

Anyway, you may have to use off-list means of dealing with things
for a while.

FYI, the lists with (un)subscribe buttons:

dev-reviews Review System Updates
freebsd-acpi ACPI and power management development
freebsd-amd64 Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform
freebsd-apache Support of apache-related ports
freebsd-arch Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture
freebsd-arm Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors
freebsd-atm ATM for FreeBSD!
freebsd-bluetooth Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments
freebsd-bugbusters Coordination of the Problem Report handling effort
freebsd-bugs Bug reports
freebsd-desktop Using and improving FreeBSD on the desktop
freebsd-mmtest Temporary testing mailing list
freebsd-multimedia Multimedia discussions
freebsd-pkg Binary package management and package tools discussion
freebsd-pkgbase Packaging the FreeBSD base system
freebsd-test Test posting area
freebsd-tex Porting TeX and related applications to FreeBSD

===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
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away in early 2018-Mar)

Zach Metzinger

2021-05-14 20:59:25 UTC

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Post by Mark Millard via freebsd-arm
I am aware of the direction that you have taken on this
subject and have been thinking about a response. But the
freebsd-arm list seems to be messed up.

I'm now getting emails for every post to this list. I sent email to
freebsd-arm-unsubscribe and confirmed. Hopefully, this was one just
stuck in the queue.

--- Zach

Baptiste Daroussin

2021-05-14 21:09:22 UTC

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Post by Mark Millard via freebsd-arm
I am aware of the direction that you have taken on this
subject and have been thinking about a response. But the
freebsd-arm list seems to be messed up.
For one, I've not received any messages via email for
recent list activity. freebsd-arm is one of the few
lists that I do have set up to send E-mail. (Many lists
I just read via a web browser.)
https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm/2021-May/thread.html
https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm/2021-May/
gets a different type of thread list.
But that list (and the related author, date, subject
sorts) shows no "Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4"
messages at all.
https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm/2021-May/index.html
also produces that thread sorted list that is missing
things.
https://lists.freebsd.org/index
which shows an incomplete list of about 17 mailing lists. It also
lists a bunch of "Archived mailing lists" that do not allow for
subscription. The page reports being based on: "generated by
https://codeberg.org/bapt/mlmmj-webview
Anyway, you may have to use off-list means of dealing with things
for a while.

FYI we are in the middle on a migration from mailman to something else,
freebsd-arm just got migrated today, (hence the archive which looks different)

I have dig into mailman and the new software and we never received an email on
freebsd arm with the subject "Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4".

So no email were lost during the migration.

What you see on "https://lists.freebsd.org/index" is the list of mailing list
that have been migrated.

The one without the subscribe button are because they are frozen, aka not
anymore a mailing list, but archives remains from history.

During the next couple of weeks the rest of mailman's mailing list will be
migrated.

Best regards,
Bapt

Mark Millard via freebsd-arm

2021-05-14 21:21:06 UTC

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Post by Baptiste Daroussin

. . .

I got things confused. The example was only on the freebsd-ports
list, not cross listed like I was expecting.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
So no email were lost during the migration.

Sorry for the noise.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
What you see on "https://lists.freebsd.org/index" is the list of mailing list
that have been migrated.

You might want a https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm/2021-May/thread.html
(and the like) as an alias for https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm/2021-May/
(and the like). Otherwise saved links just report "404 Not Found".

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
The one without the subscribe button are because they are frozen, aka not
anymore a mailing list, but archives remains from history.

Yep.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
During the next couple of weeks the rest of mailman's mailing list will be
migrated.

Ahh. So I'll have a gradual need to update my saved links. Good
to know.

Thanks for the information.

===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
( dsl-only.net went
away in early 2018-Mar)

Bernd Walter

2021-05-14 22:04:29 UTC

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Post by Baptiste Daroussin
FYI we are in the middle on a migration from mailman to something else,
freebsd-arm just got migrated today, (hence the archive which looks different)

That explains, why I received those mails in my normal income folder.
I have two subscribtions - one with a individual address to receive mail
to be sorted into a folder and with my normal sender address to be able to
write to that list, but with delivery disabled.
Obviously the delivery enabled flag wasn't transfered.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
I have dig into mailman and the new software and we never received an email on
freebsd arm with the subject "Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4".
So no email were lost during the migration.
What you see on "https://lists.freebsd.org/index" is the list of mailing list
that have been migrated.
The one without the subscribe button are because they are frozen, aka not
anymore a mailing list, but archives remains from history.
During the next couple of weeks the rest of mailman's mailing list will be
migrated.
Best regards,
Bapt

--
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Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm.

Rodney W. Grimes

2021-05-15 12:00:23 UTC

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Post by Mark Millard via freebsd-arm

Post by Baptiste Daroussin

. . .

I got things confused. The example was only on the freebsd-ports
list, not cross listed like I was expecting.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
So no email were lost during the migration.

Sorry for the noise.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
What you see on "https://lists.freebsd.org/index" is the list of mailing list
that have been migrated.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
The one without the subscribe button are because they are frozen, aka not
anymore a mailing list, but archives remains from history.

Yep.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
During the next couple of weeks the rest of mailman's mailing list will be
migrated.

Ahh. So I'll have a gradual need to update my saved links. Good
to know.

Yikes, thats not so good. That basically destroys every link on the
internet that points to an archived piece of FreeBSD mail, breaking
those links would be bad... very very bad....

Please tell me that this migration is NOT breaking those links.

Post by Mark Millard via freebsd-arm
Thanks for the information.
===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
( dsl-only.net went
away in early 2018-Mar)

--
Rod Grimes ***@freebsd.org

Baptiste Daroussin

2021-05-15 12:05:24 UTC

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Post by Rodney W. Grimes

Post by Mark Millard via freebsd-arm

Post by Baptiste Daroussin

. . .

I got things confused. The example was only on the freebsd-ports
list, not cross listed like I was expecting.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
So no email were lost during the migration.

Sorry for the noise.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
What you see on "https://lists.freebsd.org/index" is the list of mailing list
that have been migrated.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
The one without the subscribe button are because they are frozen, aka not
anymore a mailing list, but archives remains from history.

Yep.

Post by Baptiste Daroussin
During the next couple of weeks the rest of mailman's mailing list will be
migrated.

Ahh. So I'll have a gradual need to update my saved links. Good
to know.

Yikes, thats not so good. That basically destroys every link on the
internet that points to an archived piece of FreeBSD mail, breaking
those links would be bad... very very bad....
Please tell me that this migration is NOT breaking those links.

The migration is not breaking those links. the archiver used as been modified to
be able to generate the exact same links.

only the "indexes" thread.html etc are different.

This is exactly why it took so long to migrate and why mailman3 was not an
option and we were stuck to it.

Bapt